[mcman]

Mcman, I see no problems whatsoever with your personality. I am sorry that I haven't gotten to talk to your character with Julius, but I guess that is just one of the "they haven't met" obstacles. Actually, I would very much like to roleplay wih Athena, moreso because Julius would find her rather interesting, not because of this OOC discussion topic. If anyone has problems with your personality, or anything else, I hope they might tell you to your face, and not bicker behind backs. I have no issues with you, and I am greatful for all you did as staff and still hold you to a high regard.

Thanks, French. Unfortunately the behind-the-back stuff is sometimes how it goes in these communities. I'll look forward to RPing that.

[3llusive]

Really my advice to you would be to just be preemptive with your RP. If someone walks by you and takes a moment, they're silently begging the question if you're IC or not. People will generally only explicitly ask you if you're IC if they specifically want to roleplay with your character in particular. If you don't seem to be currently RPing, or seem OOC or AFK, they will quickly lose interest and just go somewhere else to try and find RP.

Any time someone enters the room I generally take the time to throw out a couple lines of RP, even if my character isn't going to talk to them or doesn't care about them in the slightest and is just watching the fireplace, or leaning against a wall, or anything else, just putting those couple descriptive lines out says to them "Hey. I'm IC. Let's RP."

If they're looking for RP or really if they don't have any going on at the moment they'll usually jump right back with a couple lines of their own to see where things are going. This is how most spontaneous RPs occur, for me at least.

Long Term RP means really that your character has developed rapport with other characters and because of that OOCly other players know that their characters have an interesting reason to RP with your character. Long Term is generally anything that sets up RP for a later period, whether your character becomes their employer, their friend, or really anything else that puts you at that player's OOC 'Go-to' list.


For example when Caine first met Athena he basically ended up tackling her through a roof. That set him up to feel guilty and ashamed, creating an RP opportunity in the future, and for those following as he tried to befriend her. After that his priorities shifted though a bit because I didn't see you in awhile. (With other IC occurrences taking Caine's attention away to something different) OOCly, however, that long term rapport decayed. Generally relations between characters, especially if they're weak, can decay over time, especially the OOC player's interest to seek out your character if they haven't seen you in awhile.



This is all just my 2c on the subject and all of my own opinions and experiences. Take it as you will, but know I'm just trying to help.

[Good_Old_Epsilon]

Hey manny, I just had to re-read your post, twice now. I think this is one of the problems, in terms of people not RPing with you. I'm going to be dead serious here and bring you the brick of truth, rather than the silver platter of politeness.

You write waaaay too much than it's neeeded. I understand doing this when there is some sort of official staff business to announce, but when writing a relaxed post, don't write this much. People don't want to read posts that take ten minutes to read and an extra ten minutes to understand when they just want to have fun.

And, the other thing is that you are too serious. Way too serious. Most of your characters are also a little too much on the serious side. It makes you as a person and your RP appear uninteresting. You are also far too strict (and verging on the side of pedantic), and mentioning anything near you might result in being corrected. Nobody likes being corrected all the time, it's outright annoying. Additionally, your point of view is not always right, because it isn't.

Finally, if you want to find people to RP with, just start moving around. It isn't Meta to take a walk around with your character, and you can't expect people to find -you- if you don't go looking for -them- once in a while. I saw Athena sitting around in the inn, just standing. Couldn't you just take a walk with your character and find someone?

Anyways, this is my personal two cents on the matter.

So, in terms of change, I suggest you stop taking things so seriously, give other people some slack, starting actively looking for people and start RPing more "fun" characters.

[mcman]

@3llusive
Fair points, though it would be unfortunate to see IC rapport "decaying" due to OOC factors such as activity.

@Eps
I appreciate the blank honesty, but for one I am not going to be writing less merely to accommodate people's attention span if I feel like I have something to say.

In regards to the perception of seriousness, that's something that most staffers may potentially suffer from OOC. IC though, I'm not so sure there's any grounds for that accusation, other than the fact that my characters are more serious than some other characters that have been popular recently. As usual, there is a clique of "chaotic-aligned" characters who drink heavily, speak crudely, and resist authority, but these kinds of characters don't interest me, and are slightly indulgent in my humble opinion. I would not like to think that they have so become the norm that any other kinds of characters are seen as "too serious", and I won't be making a character to fit in with these characters, as others have perhaps done. Perhaps I take my characters a bit more seriously than most, but I don't think they're so serious themselves as a rule: Athena may be a bit serious, but Ferenc was certainly not a serious person, and while Cervantes was probably too aloof to judge in that regard.

I'm no longer staff, so I have little room to be strict with others, and I don't exactly recall correcting people that often. Are we just talking about being a grammar Nazi, or telling other people what their characters can and can't do? Because I've been less active in that regard than some other staffers who nonetheless remain popular in RP. I have also been known to apologize when I am established to be mistaken, but I do not tend to apologize for something that may very well have been correct.

When a good deal of the RP has been people sitting in their inn rooms or inside certain buildings in the port district, it would be a bit meta if I was to pop in there. A lack of RP opportunities in common spaces that I have noticed is one reason I made the post.

As a general response to your feedback, you are known to have very strong opinions about me, which probably vary in their validity. You're not the only one, so perhaps it's still worthwhile, but while having someone level a series of personality-centered accusations toward me is a start, it's hard to address without specific examples and without it being pointed out when it happens IG. But ultimately if the OOC reputation/personality factors are what is affecting my RP opportunities, as I questioned in my OP, that does arguably speak as badly of others as it does of me. That is, I'm not going to fight an uphill battle for RP in this community if others are going to project all of their negative opinions of me onto each of my characters.

[3llusive]

@3llusive
Fair points, though it would be unfortunate to see IC rapport "decaying" due to OOC factors such as activity.

Well, it's not necessarily the IC relationship itself is decaying, but rather priorities tend to shift. When presented with the opportunity to develop interactions between characters there are definitely influencing factors no matter how unfortunate or inconvenient they may be.

And really this only does apply if the character's bond or interaction between each other is weak or one-sided, just as it would be in real life. I mean picture for instance you're introduced to someone by one of your friends, who seems nice, and you talk a bit, and for awhile you might really want to hang out or go do something with that person to get to know them a little better.

Then picture that you try and fail to contact them or they don't return interest. Chances are you're going to decide, consciously or not, that that person isn't much of a priority anymore because you're not getting anywhere with them.

This doesn't mean that if you see this person again you're going to completely shrug them off and act like you don't know them unless you're pretty conceited.

You might say hi, chat with them a bit perhaps, but you're no longer actively pursuing a friendship or anything else with them.


Again, just my personal views on the topic.